Comments on: My thoughts on Piper and Warren http://www.seektheholy.com/2010/03/31/my-thoughts-on-piper-and-warren/ The web home of Chris Roberts Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:46:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Conrad http://www.seektheholy.com/2010/03/31/my-thoughts-on-piper-and-warren/comment-page-1/#comment-3033 Conrad Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:09:39 +0000 http://www.seektheholy.com/?p=930#comment-3033 John Piper explains himself very well during this interview on inviting Rick Warren to DG2010. I will make one very simple observation, this should be a tremendously interesting conference! John Piper explains himself very well during this interview on inviting Rick Warren to DG2010. I will make one very simple observation, this should be a tremendously interesting conference!

]]> By: Chris http://www.seektheholy.com/2010/03/31/my-thoughts-on-piper-and-warren/comment-page-1/#comment-3032 Chris Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:21:18 +0000 http://www.seektheholy.com/?p=930#comment-3032 After watching Piper's comments on Warren, I'm amazed at Warren's views on some things and will have to do a serious re-evaluation. After watching Piper’s comments on Warren, I’m amazed at Warren’s views on some things and will have to do a serious re-evaluation.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.seektheholy.com/2010/03/31/my-thoughts-on-piper-and-warren/comment-page-1/#comment-3031 Andrew Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:08:33 +0000 http://www.seektheholy.com/?p=930#comment-3031 Thanks for your honesty. Maybe the exposure you have had to Warren has left that impression because of the context in which it was found...maybe not. It would appear we all have something to learn from another in the body of Christ. "Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good." I've yet to find a minister who has perfected their kingly, priestly, prophetic ministries. One is typically done well while the others suffer, and so it is with teaching. I rarely find a deeply theological and still pragmatic teaching. We are of the same body and need to practice discernment but humility and be receptive to what the Lord would have us learn without setting up psychological (spiritual!) barriers. Thank you for your thoughts Chris. Thanks for your honesty. Maybe the exposure you have had to Warren has left that impression because of the context in which it was found…maybe not. It would appear we all have something to learn from another in the body of Christ. “Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good.” I’ve yet to find a minister who has perfected their kingly, priestly, prophetic ministries. One is typically done well while the others suffer, and so it is with teaching. I rarely find a deeply theological and still pragmatic teaching. We are of the same body and need to practice discernment but humility and be receptive to what the Lord would have us learn without setting up psychological (spiritual!) barriers. Thank you for your thoughts Chris.

]]> By: John http://www.seektheholy.com/2010/03/31/my-thoughts-on-piper-and-warren/comment-page-1/#comment-3027 John Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:18:26 +0000 http://www.seektheholy.com/?p=930#comment-3027 Hi Chris, My first thought when I heard that Warren would be at DG was, "Well, forget going there." But I like your perspective. Thanks. Hi Chris,

My first thought when I heard that Warren would be at DG was, “Well, forget going there.” But I like your perspective. Thanks.

]]> By: Chris http://www.seektheholy.com/2010/03/31/my-thoughts-on-piper-and-warren/comment-page-1/#comment-3025 Chris Thu, 01 Apr 2010 04:58:36 +0000 http://www.seektheholy.com/?p=930#comment-3025 My own exposure to Warren leaves me feeling that this is a man without depth. He always comes across as somewhat superficial or acting without thinking things through as he ought. His teachings come across as far too pragmatic, emphasizing how we get results without saying enough about how we grow in Christ or focus on Christ to lift up Christ. That is my impression of him. I'm not dogmatic one way or another about Warren, largely because I have not taken the time to learn more about his teaching. I've seen things his church has done, I've read some things by him, and I've dug through the occasional interview but I've never tried to really examine the breadth of his teaching. The snippets I see bother me, and he has bothered me more and more over the years, so from that I am concerned whenever Warren is raised as someone to view as a strong teacher of Scripture or as a faithful example to learn from. I suspect my opinion of him will not be changed when I've listened to his sermon from the Desiring God conference, but at the least I'm willing to take a closer look at Warren since Piper seems to appreciate him. My own exposure to Warren leaves me feeling that this is a man without depth. He always comes across as somewhat superficial or acting without thinking things through as he ought. His teachings come across as far too pragmatic, emphasizing how we get results without saying enough about how we grow in Christ or focus on Christ to lift up Christ.

That is my impression of him. I’m not dogmatic one way or another about Warren, largely because I have not taken the time to learn more about his teaching. I’ve seen things his church has done, I’ve read some things by him, and I’ve dug through the occasional interview but I’ve never tried to really examine the breadth of his teaching. The snippets I see bother me, and he has bothered me more and more over the years, so from that I am concerned whenever Warren is raised as someone to view as a strong teacher of Scripture or as a faithful example to learn from.

I suspect my opinion of him will not be changed when I’ve listened to his sermon from the Desiring God conference, but at the least I’m willing to take a closer look at Warren since Piper seems to appreciate him.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.seektheholy.com/2010/03/31/my-thoughts-on-piper-and-warren/comment-page-1/#comment-3023 Andrew Thu, 01 Apr 2010 04:48:19 +0000 http://www.seektheholy.com/?p=930#comment-3023 Hi Chris. Can you help me understand why you think Rick Warren speaking at DG may be a mistake? Hi Chris. Can you help me understand why you think Rick Warren speaking at DG may be a mistake?

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